Daniel, this would make for excellent content on the show, Monday. Can we plan to discuss Tim Alberta's book but also the observations about Christian othering?
I've long since left Twitter but remember Daws very well, sadly lazily grouping together a bunch of books he hasn't read to throw red meat to his followers sounds entirely in character for him. I listen to Schiess regularly on her podcast and she doesn't harp on Trump or how awful evangelicals are at all, rather that we should engage locally as opposed to consuming media. I guess the one thing all these books have in common is that they in some way advocate changing the evangelical approach to politics that has been tried the last 50 years and is self evidently falling apart.
You do have a good point about othering. I do think Alberta would be more than happy to take that criticism based on the book and interviews he's given about it. The book does end on a hopeful note that did help, halfway through the book it was one of the most depressing books I've ever read!
Also, on the pro life movement. I think for 50 years they did a fairly good job of incremental laws that chipped away at abortion with relatively broad support. The problem is now the pro life establishment which has always advocated incrementalism for the most part is now losing institutional support to the fringe abolitionist wing. This then translates to red state politicians making poorly crafted laws which then scares the crap out of the 80% of America that isn't in favor of banning abortion with no exceptions. Then you see KS and KY rejecting abortion bans. The pro life world wasn't ready at all for Roe going down and unfortunately everything that has transpired since is likely ensuring that abortion will be a fact of life in America for the rest of our lifetimes.
Yeah, including Schiess in the same breath as, say, Perry/Gorski or Du Mez was a bit rich. I'm sympathetic to the Negative World framing/"desperate times call for new measures" perspective (even though I don't adopt it), but equating *any* book attempting to critique supposed flaws in evangelical political engagement with surrendering to the culture is... not great.
Daniel, this would make for excellent content on the show, Monday. Can we plan to discuss Tim Alberta's book but also the observations about Christian othering?
I've long since left Twitter but remember Daws very well, sadly lazily grouping together a bunch of books he hasn't read to throw red meat to his followers sounds entirely in character for him. I listen to Schiess regularly on her podcast and she doesn't harp on Trump or how awful evangelicals are at all, rather that we should engage locally as opposed to consuming media. I guess the one thing all these books have in common is that they in some way advocate changing the evangelical approach to politics that has been tried the last 50 years and is self evidently falling apart.
You do have a good point about othering. I do think Alberta would be more than happy to take that criticism based on the book and interviews he's given about it. The book does end on a hopeful note that did help, halfway through the book it was one of the most depressing books I've ever read!
Also, on the pro life movement. I think for 50 years they did a fairly good job of incremental laws that chipped away at abortion with relatively broad support. The problem is now the pro life establishment which has always advocated incrementalism for the most part is now losing institutional support to the fringe abolitionist wing. This then translates to red state politicians making poorly crafted laws which then scares the crap out of the 80% of America that isn't in favor of banning abortion with no exceptions. Then you see KS and KY rejecting abortion bans. The pro life world wasn't ready at all for Roe going down and unfortunately everything that has transpired since is likely ensuring that abortion will be a fact of life in America for the rest of our lifetimes.
Yeah, including Schiess in the same breath as, say, Perry/Gorski or Du Mez was a bit rich. I'm sympathetic to the Negative World framing/"desperate times call for new measures" perspective (even though I don't adopt it), but equating *any* book attempting to critique supposed flaws in evangelical political engagement with surrendering to the culture is... not great.